SPs - fakin it...

[mr. x]

i am curious....

nearly every review says how the SP/MPA came like it was her first time, but i am looking for a reality check.

in normal relationships, most women tend to take longer than men to get off - in MP/SP situations, where there might be little stimulation (DATY, DP,...) plus the woman might not be attracted to the guy.

i would hazard a guess that there is a less than 1 in 10 chance an SP is really getting off, yet alone coming.

to SPs/MPAs:

now, i don't expect any SP who replies to say that she is faking orgasms, and i doubt that i would believe one who says she comes virtually every time she is with a client - so please avoid any reference to yourself.

instead, i wonder if some SPs/MPAs can relate what others in the business have told them...


to the guys:

seriously, do you think the women you are with are getting off - or do you accept that it is mostly just acting? how can you tell the difference?

[kramer]

For the most part, I think that the majority of sessions I've had would have been acting - obviously some are much better than others at this with regard to the believability of it all. On the odd occasion, however, I honestly think that it was for real. I think it truly depends on the girl etc. - some can/are able to achieve the big O more readily. Rare occurence, however, in my opinion.

Kramer

[Teddybear]

i'd think the question would be answered differently on different occasions. Do I feel that an isolated case(s) of an orgasm was real? absolutely. Do I believe that every moan or compliment on my superior abilities is completely genuine? Probably *wink*
Do I think that sp's might have to fake it to make many other non-erotic clients feel special? For sure:p

[Sheik]

Real orgasms are not exactly rare with most SP's. Some are very good at faking it and some of us are very good at getting some ladies off. The only way I can tell if an orgasm is real is when the lady actually creams inside. Trust me on this one, its obvious.

I dislike acting and some ladies are just a little bit too obvious with their acting capabilities. I don't think I've ever posted a review saying that the lady came like it was her first time, but I have said a couple have had a look of shock on their face after they did, like they couldn't believe it. Either they are very good actresses or they really did enjoy it. I prefer to think along the lines that they enjoyed it, otherwise it puts a damper on the session. If the SP is enjoying herself, I enjoy myself even more so.

One thing that I find sadly lacking in most SP's today is passion. I was with a lady recently (still working on the review) that just blew me away with the intensity of our session.

[Bubba]

Originally posted by Sheik
One thing that I find sadly lacking in most SP's today is passion. Amen to that brother. It is truly few and very far between to find that......

[Cassandra]

I can honestly say that I have faked it once, if not a few, times...but it wasn't necessarily a client--it could have been my boyfriend as well.

Only recently I saw a show on TV who claimed that the stats were 40% in favour of women ever achieving the big O by stimulation other than her own :).

This is another good reason to spend the extra cash for a two or more hour session. To spend more time getting to know each other--I find that it makes the world of difference in how my body reacts.

Something that I have done from time to time is to arouse myself (without completion) before meeting a gentleman, and by the time I see him--I want him badly!! Heh heh

(sorrry for bad grammar or spelling--in a rush and at a laptop)

[mr. x]

it also goes in reverse, that women cannot always tell when a man has come.... this goes for both SPs and girlfriends.

i have had this happen a few times - just because i stop or slow down all of a sudden, some women have thought i have come. last time i had full service, woman on top, i was asked the question of if i had come yet ( i think that because she had thought that she had put on a big act, that i would get off at the same time)

and i admit that i have faked an orgasm - generally easier to do when there isn't a condom on view with the lack of evidence! (sometimes sex can go on too long, and soreness/ overstimulation/ fatigue/ sleepiness makes it difficult to get to that plateau - and so as not to offend my partner....)

anyway, i really didn't get the answer i was looking for here - i wanted to hear from women about what other SPs have told them...

as a related issue, do women in the biz find that, with the passing years, they get off more or less with their customers? i would think that someone new to the business is more likely to get turned on by a customer who is reasonably attractive, but on the other hand, i hear about older SPs who are more erotic/at ease with their clients. kayla said something about this in a post long ago, i can't recall where or when, about how in her earlier days on the street it was different than her later years in business, when she actually felt better towards herself , the clients, and the whole thing.

[Toni the Tigress]

I refuse to fake it. If a woman has encounters with only 1 or 2 gentlemen during the course of the day, there really is no need to fake it. After the "getting to know-a-bit about process" is over and you get to the "bed" or "couch" or "kitchen counter" or "floor" (get my meaning?) and If the gentleman is a lousy lover or just nervous and your need are not been fulfilled and satisfied, speak up - gentle direct him to your sweet spots, tell him how to touch you for maximum results, take his hand and guide him - Tell him what turns you on. Like it rough - tell him. Like it slow and controlled - tell him. Chances are in doing so, you will never have to fake it again. If you're just having one of "those" days (I've NEVER had one - :) where you just are not in that head space for pleasures of the flesh, take the day off, regroup and wait for tomorrow. Don't allow yourselves to just "go through the motions" moaning and groaning yet you're as dry as the great Sahara. Allow yourself to get as much pleasure from the encounter as possible, get rid of your inhibitions and turn "your business" into "your pleasure" and ladies you will flow like the Thames - absolutely no need for a the Best Actress Oscar.

[mr. x]

TJ:

your post made me think of a question - in terms of the "service" you women provide - what is more important.... that the guy think he has made you come, or that he actually has.

think about it - an SP could do as you suggesst - and maybe the session runs long, or maybe the guy is indirectly offended at the fact that you are trying to (subtly) teach him. or is it better to fake it and let him get off and be happy in his ignorance?

i mean, what we guys are really paying for is part physical, and part fantasy. part of the fantasy is not really having to feel all that obligated or responsible for the womans pleasure - so in truth, deep down, maybe we don't care if she comes or not (though our ego demands it, or else we will see ourselves as being poor lovers), whereas in a "real" sex act, or more aptly, a loving one, getting your partner off is something you aim to do out of a genuine generosity.

its a question of "pressure" to perform as opposed to being indulged - one thing i have disliked in some one-night stands i have had is the attitude of my partner that she is just gonna lay there and i am responsible for everything! when i go to an MP or SP, in part, it is because i want to be indulged, and not be under pressure to perform!

and of course, if an SP just lied there and didn't make encouraging noises, that would be a turn off...

it also depends on the type of service - in a 1/2 hour, its rushed - maybe in a 2 hour session it is different (and to be honest, i am a 1/2 hour guy - i like quickies, and would rather have 3 1/2 hour sessions than 2 1 hour sessions for the same total cost - and as well, i would be reluctant to have a 2 hour session with an SP unless we had had a previous encounter, so that i knew in advance that we "clicked" - but thats the topic of another thread)

[syn]

gentlemen,

i do not wish to destroy anyone's ego ... but i had a former sp roommate who used to just get more and more 'worked up' whenever she was trying to get her client to finish.

if he was the energizer bunny, and just kept going, going, and going ... she put on this incredible academy award winning performance ... i am sure many of her clients thought she was climbing the walls with pleasure, when she just really wanted it to end!

soo... to answer cc's question from another post - there truly can be too much of a good thing ...

xx

syn

[Toni the Tigress]

Mr X, posing the question to a few female "business acquaintances" brought about mixed reactions. If the gentleman is "gently guided" to "doing the right thing" why then should he take offence or consider himself a poor lover. I have found the opposite to be true - men like knowing what to do to please the woman involved. A friend once told me that "Not every pussy-cat will purr with the same stroke of every fur." - truer words have never been spoken. Men are far happier when there is actual evidence to indicate that they provided the means to garner the heavenly outburst from the woman - SP or otherwise. True that you men are paying for the physical and the fantasy but isn't part of it to see if you can actually bring the woman to climax? A selfish lover is one that only thinks with the smaller of his 2 heads - a good lover is one who is not afraid to think, listen, speak, and act upon with both heads. One should not equate providing physical pleasure to an SP with the emotions involved with a wife/girlfriend. Emotions are what garners obligations, physical pleasure requires only willingness and sometimes guidance on both sides. There are dolls for the man who want an inanimate, unresponsive object who will just lay there and take it without motion or sound.
Still luving ya,
T. ;)

[Toni the Tigress]

P.S.
Ooooops, Lyla good points.

[Cassandra]

I agree Lyla...there is so much pleasure in the touch and feel in the time spent looking to achieve the goal... sometimes the time achieving is much more gratifying than the goal. (and I hope that made sense).

So much mental energy is spent on whether he did, or she did...is that our basis of the final outcome? or do we look at the time spent together exploring each other's bodies?

When I leave a gentleman I feel sexy, beautiful, seductive, but most of all I think about how good I feel...isn't that the main objective of both sides?

[mr. x]

syndy - regarding your friend - i have had SPs who did the same thing - they thought that by overacting that they could make me finish quicker - but with me when they go "over the top" it just makes me aware of the situation - brings me back to reality and it turns me of, and makes me take even longer!

and this was the sort of information i was asking for!

TJ: in terms of a "real" relationship, i agree and wish that women were more forthcoming - in subtle ways that you suggest, in guiding me as to exactly what they like - everyone is slightly different - and i try to gently guide my partner to do what i like (with oral sex this is particularly true - so many women don't do it the right way for me - and i appreciate it when a woman signals her likes and dislikes when i am going down on her)


of course, with many of my experiences, the SP just wants to get it over with quickly - i guess i get what i pay for... often when they guide me, it is because they have restrictions! i love it when i play with a woman and she starts to get wet - but some in the business stop me because of their limits or the way they like to "manage" the encounter. so i am suspicious when an SP tries to guide me to, or away, from something!

[syn]

Originally posted by Sheik
Real orgasms are not exactly rare with most SP's. Some are very good at faking it and some of us are very good at getting some ladies off. The only way I can tell if an orgasm is real is when the lady actually creams inside. Trust me on this one, its obvious.



don't forget that some women are just multi-orgasmic ... and can cum easily. one of my former sp roommates used to cum so easily, she used to joke that she could cum if the wind blew in the right direction. so it may not be that she is faking it or that you are an outstanding lover ...

some girls have all the luck ... sigh ...

syn

[Gawd]

It's so unfortunate and sad that I never last long enough to find out if she does.

But what does it matter when I'm there to have my fun... not to be insincere or anything, but as much as I enjoy watching the lady writhe in pleasure, me first, then again, and again, and again. That's why we're doing what we're doing.

[deucedaddy]

Well, Sp's are on this board to make some money. Guys wanna hear that they have exceptional abilities in the bedroom. My guess is that most of the SP's will say "I cum most of the time, I love sex". No one is really going to say, "Never, only on my own".

[benito]

The one trap many of us hobbiests fall into is thinking we are the special person that is really turning the SP on - the better SPs will have us leaving with the thought that the next time they will actually pay us for the pleasure.
I have learned not to entertain these thoughts. I am a fat old guy who was never really much of a charmer even when I was fit and younger. I pay my money to spend time with women who wouldn't normally look twice at me. I also find that the higher end SP's are usually the better actresses, with both orgasms and an interest in me that seems very very real at the time.
The SP is a business person, and the faked orgasm is just another of the services provided. If she has a real one, its not because of you, but because she chose to have one at that time.
In my opinion this hobby is 98 per cent fantasy and 2 per cent action.

[Svend]

I don't mind living that fantasy.

Thanks for finding this old thread, some good thoughts were shared.

[fuji]

With all due respect to the fine company present, it's an SP's job to fake orgasms, and any SP who says she doesn't fake them is simply doing a good job of marketing herself.

An SP who doesn't somehow try and convince you that you were good or special or better than her other clients is simply not doing her job. You are paying for a fantasy, and that is exactly what you are getting.

I am sure orgasms happen, but relative to the number of times an SP has sex at work, rare. The guys who are probably fooled most often are the ones who think they have some kind of clue that proves a woman orgasmed.

[luv4lust]

With all due respect to the fine company present, it's an SP's job to fake orgasms, and any SP who says she doesn't fake them is simply doing a good job of marketing herself.

An SP who doesn't somehow try and convince you that you were good or special or better than her other clients is simply not doing her job. You are paying for a fantasy, and that is exactly what you are getting.

I am sure orgasms happen, but relative to the number of times an SP has sex at work, rare. The guys who are probably fooled most often are the ones who think they have some kind of clue that proves a woman orgasmed.
FYI i don't fake it i can't it's like lieing

[langeweile]

In my opinion this hobby is 98 per cent fantasy and 2 per cent action.

I completely agree with this statement. Even this board is a fantasy playground. Fake names, questionable experiences and tall tales..it is like Alice in wonderland...a big boys sexual fantasy.

Not that anything is wrong with that...:D

[oldstud47]

I completely agree with this statement. Even this board is a fantasy playground. Fake names, questionable experiences and tall tales..it is like Alice in wonderland...a big boys sexual fantasy.

Not that anything is wrong with that...:D
Good point and my thoughts are even if she doesn't cum I still take pride in knowing I made her feel good and I can tell the difference in pleasure vs. being a fake (I think LOL)

[oral.com]

The more popular SP's are servicing 4+ clients a day. I believe that some of these woment probably build their excitment with each client and only cum when they choose to, somewhere towards the end of their day.
Now, although everyone is different some women when they cum lose conscousness and are toast for quite a while.
The one SP who I can really say orgasmed with me acutally said (oh no, you made me cum, then she fell asleep on my chest)
All my former girlfriends and now my wife usually do the same after they cum.

[hambone]

Do you have a contact number?

Wow, are you desperate?:p A four year old thread and you are asking a long departed lady for contact info. I thought you were "da man" LOL

[goalie000]

I think most of the time the SP is faking it, but occasionally you get one thats really into the session and the movements and vocals are not Faked. IMHO

[langeweile]

Even a good thing can get old if indulged in too often.
Maybe those SP's that have the luxury of limiting the amount of clients they see, will have some passion left.
Let's be real, after the tenth guy it just get's old...no matter how good he is.

In general it is much better for business, if the guy leaves with the impression, that he actually did well.
Acting is good...good acting is great...

[fuji]

would you rebook a lady you thought was faking it every time you were together ? I think not ?

Yes. I expect SP's to fake it. I figure they are all faking it, even when it seems convincing. That doesn't bother me one bit.

[Svend]

I think faking it is halfway to getting there, you're in a positive frame of mind and aware of each stroke or lick. I think some SPs are surprised when they are sent over the edge when they weren't expecting it.
This is one reason that squirters are occasionally asked for, some need a confirmation that can't be faked. I've had a few of these and it's a nice reassurance that I'm able to please her.

[JoyfulC]

Three words:

Practice, practice, practice.

It's true that women are not like men in that a woman really needs to be in touch with herself and not feel self-conscious in order to really have a good hard, headbanging orgasm. SPs probably have a lot more chance to be in the situation and practice relaxing, getting in the zone than most women do. That's why it's probably easier for us to cum.

That said, there are times when I fake it. I find it very hard to cum if I'm being pressured or distracted. The most likely thing to make me fake it is if someone is urging me "cum, baby! cum for me!!" The pressure is on then (and often guys who do this expect me to cum at the drop of a hat). I just can't relax and do it when I feel the pressure to beat the clock. It also doesn't help to have the constant chatter distracting me. (Although maybe this spurs someone else on.)

I cum best when someone settles in to play with me or fuck me or go down on me with no pressure involved -- as though they're doing it more to allow me the enjoyment of the experience, rather than to "make" me orgasm. If men would think about this for a minute: what would you rather? That a woman suck and play with you just to tease you and prolong your enjoyment? Or that we suck and play with you to get you off as quickly and as easily as possible? Well! Why should we be any different? ;)

If I feel it's really important to a client that I cum, but if (for whatever reason) it's unlikely that I will, then sure -- I'll fake it. But I always give it every chance to happen naturally first. (My obvious first preference is to have the real thing.)

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