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Don
04-13-2004, 09:18 PM
That end to that Montreal-Boston game was so pathetic that I found it funny (obviously I'm not a Habs fan)!

Feel bad for Montreal and Theodore (and Sourey) who got hosed because of Kovalev trying to dramatize a penalty.

Kev
04-13-2004, 09:50 PM
Kovalev what a buffoon.

Even if hes hurt, he should still be playing the puck. Instead he holds his hand like the girl he is and runs into his own player (Sourey)...........what a smuck.:rolleyes: --- Kev

The Bandit
04-13-2004, 10:04 PM
He tried the same thing as Ribiero last game...trying to get the ref to call it.

Side note: C'mon Kev, don't tease us with the clip, if she's not going to take it off....

xarir
04-13-2004, 10:24 PM
The clip was probably censored so as not to offend the sensibilities of TERBites. ;)

I tuned in at the end of the 3rd period and watched about the first 6 min of OT. I foud the play in OT to be lackadasial and fairly disappointing overall. I also lost a lot of respect for the Habs by Ribiero's childish antics in the last game, so I stopped watching.

Anyhow, if Kovalev was play acting then I say the team deserved to lose.

Ranger68
04-14-2004, 06:01 AM
I agree entirely. Kovalev was having a great game, then decided to try to pull a Ribeiro and cost them the match.
What a dipshit!
I'm glad a player's attempt at overly dramatizing a penalty cost his team for once. BIG time.
:)

slyjohn
04-14-2004, 06:16 AM
Hey Kev.... is she a SP or your Wife ?? hahaha! sorry..

Yeah well... If Kovalev was not in the game, Montreal would not have been in OT...

Souray is not playing well... Theo neather...

Go Sens Go!

Spiker
04-14-2004, 07:01 AM
That was hard to watch! I've been hacked and whacked harder than that, you suck it up though!

The icing on the cake is that he blamed Souray for coughing up the puck! That was a series breaker for sure, put a fork in 'em, the Habs are done like dinner!

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1081894211668&call_pageid=968867503640&col=970081593064

skipstagger
04-14-2004, 07:40 AM
It worked for Marchment when Alfredson hit him behind the net. That was a good acting job that did draw a penalty.

luv2fress
04-14-2004, 07:59 AM
xarir
"I tuned in at the end of the 3rd period and watched about the first 6 min of OT. I foud the play in OT to be lackadasial and fairly disappointing overall."

If you thought that was boring hockey then you don't know what hockey is all about. The game was a classic and I am a Habs fan. CND GUY you are 100% correct, the game was lost when Julien refused to use Perreault for the late face offs.

bigdik
04-14-2004, 08:05 AM
I think Ribeiro's crap at the end of game 3 was a factor here. It didn't look like much of a slash to me, but Kovalev's reaction might have drawn a whistle if Ribeiro hadn't shown up the officials in the last game. They aren't allowed to talk to the media, but what ref wouldn't be pissed seeing a guy who went down like he was shot laughing on the bench a minute later? The refs have egos too, I doubt that will get the Habs any favours.

xarir
04-14-2004, 08:15 AM
I don't think the hockey was bad, I just think it lacked passion. To me, OT in the playoffs should be a demonstration of some of the best hockey you'll ever see. I think it should be played smart but with Absolute Determination. I just didn't see that happening in the first 6 min of OT so I tuned out. They hockey I saw reminded more of a regular season game than anything else.

xarir
04-14-2004, 08:20 AM
Anyone know where I can watch a video clip of this controversial slash?

luv2fress
04-14-2004, 08:21 AM
I coach my 10 year olds team and tell the kids all the time if they can get up and off the ice then do it. No faking, no complaining, just play hockey. No question, what Ribeiro did was wrong but I don't think the refs took that into account when Kovalev got slashed. The refs had the attitude from the first minute of OT to let the players play. This is why nothing was called last night, and virtually nothng ever gets called in OT. In the first OT period there were at least 2 occasions where the ref should have called something whether it is OT or not.

bigdik
04-14-2004, 08:39 AM
Actually, Murray took a penalty in the 2nd OT, a pretty lame holding call. Kovalev has a rep for " embellishment ", and I think that, and Ribeiro's antics caused the Ref's to say " here we go again ", and ignore it. I saw the slash, wasn't worth a penalty in the regular season, let alone in double OT. I do think if the team and player involved were different it would have got a whistle. Historically, between the Bruins and Habs, this sort of thing has resulted in a major to the Bruins, and the Spanish Inquisition post game.

gladheateher
04-14-2004, 08:57 AM
It looked more like a hard tap than a slash or some wicked two hander. Kovalev is done in Montreal.

luv2fress
04-14-2004, 09:02 AM
If you saw the replay of the Murray penalty in OT you were able to see that it was very obvious and had to be called simply bcuz there would have been complete control with a clear shot on the net from around the slot. The refs were right in not calling the Kovalev penalty. It was a slash, but not one that should have received a penalty, especially in OT.

Ranger68
04-14-2004, 12:02 PM
The game was dull, sorry - not a classic just because it went to double O.T.

Kovalev has been questioned by both Julien and Souray, and if that doesn't tell you what's going on, there's no hope for ya. ;)

slademan
04-14-2004, 01:09 PM
Kovalev has a history of diving, Who remembers earlier in his career when he played for the Rangers in a playoff game against the Quebec Nordiques. Craig Wolanin gave Kovalev a weak one hander in the back, Kovalev fell to the ice like he was just shot. Joe Sakic went down the ice and scored. The goal was called back, and Kovalev got up off the ice and was sitting on the bench laughing. That goal which was called back cost the Nordiques the game and the series. A combination of Kovalev's history and Ribeiro's antics in the earlier game probably had a lot to do with the no call on the play. The refs remember these things and it looks good on Him and the Habs. There is no place in hockey for this crap and it just ruins the game. For once a referee made a good call with a no call .And for Kovalev, just play the game and leave the acting for the ACTRA members.

Kathleen
04-14-2004, 01:15 PM
slademan - Well said, nothing to add there. Though seeing him run into his own player made me laugh.

Kathleen

skipstagger
04-14-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by slademan
There is no place in hockey for this crap and it just ruins the game.And for Kovalev, just play the game and leave the acting for the ACTRA members.

How about Marchment laying behind the net like he was shot to draw the penalty against Alfredson, or Tucker last year against Philly laying on the ice like he was knocked out till he realized there was no call then he jumped up and went to the bench. Tucker did the same thing against Philly earlier in that year as well.

slademan
04-14-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by skipstagger
How about Marchment laying behind the net like he was shot to draw the penalty against Alfredson, or Tucker last year against Philly laying on the ice like he was knocked out till he realized there was no call then he jumped up and went to the bench. Tucker did the same thing against Philly earlier in that year as well.

Oh I have a better one, how about Tucker lying on the ice after being drilled from behind by Alfredson, or how about Domi lying on the ice after being drilled from behind from Alfredson......hmmmm I see a pattern here. And I'll never forget Alfredsons remarks after the leafs scored on the penalty he toock for hitting Domi, it's Domi's fault cause he can't skate.....Give me a break.......How could you put Tucker in the same sentence as Kovalev....Tucker is a gamer and he dosn't stay down unless he is really hurt.

skipstagger
04-14-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by slademan
Tucker is a gamer and he dosn't stay down unless he is really hurt.

he wasn`t hurt in both my examples, even in Tampa he was referred to as "greg louganis" by their own media

skipstagger
04-14-2004, 02:31 PM
you call it "crap" when Kovalev shakes his hand as if he`s in pain, but when tucker lays on the ice like he`s knocked out then jumps up as if nothing happened thats ok?

shack
04-14-2004, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by skipstagger
he wasn`t hurt in both my examples, even in Tampa he was referred to as "greg louganis" by their own media
You mean Tucker is gay?

Ranger68
04-15-2004, 06:18 AM
Yeah, skipstagger, how about when Berard lay on the ice pretending to be hurt after taking a high stick in the eye from Hossa! That was classic. ...

Jackass.

slademan
04-15-2004, 08:37 AM
I take back what I said about Kovalev, he must have been hurt , did you see his press confrence yesterday, he had a single piece of tape on his hand....didn't he get hit higher up on the wrist.....now thats classic.....actually I think he had the tape on the wrong hand

Ranger68
04-15-2004, 08:41 AM
Guys who lay on the ice or fake injuries are acting like IDIOTS when they do - Tucker embellishes more than most guys
BUT
has never cost his team a DOUBLE-OVERTIME PLAYOFF GAME!
Sorry if that wasn't clear, skipstagger. Maybe some lessons in comprehension are in order.
Oh, wait, sorry - you're a Sens fan. Never mind.
;)

skipstagger
04-15-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Ranger68
Yeah, skipstagger, how about when Berard lay on the ice pretending to be hurt after taking a high stick in the eye from Hossa! That was classic. ...

Jackass.

We were talking about actors, embellishing, trying to draw a penalty, obviously Berard was not acting.

Kovalev and Ribeiro were acting, but so was Marchment and Tucker has in the past. Getting highsticked or hit from behind has nothing to do with the topic,or haven`t you figured out that calling someone an actor is implying he really isn`t hurt. Nobody suggested Berard was acting. He`s just part of your moronic offtopic comeback.

You must be an angry little guy ranger 68 always calling people names and having a general hissy fit.

And i`m not a Sens fan, don`t know where you got that from.

slyjohn
04-15-2004, 09:22 AM
Hey BadKat!

When your LEAFS loose perhaps you could make a trip to Ottawa... I might help you with your morale!!! heh heh! Yeah, I know, I’m bad!

Back to our conversation.....

I to would be acting ... dam... making 2,000,000.00$US + a year... I call that ACTING!

At this rate, Darcy T.F*ker will not last another 5 year in this league! Maybe we shall call him Darcy Pinball Tucker!

Kovalev... well, for sure.. In Double OT you must give your 150%... especially if you are the last man back! I also think that he was getting off the ice when Koivu passed him the puck.

I'm a die hard HABS fan... but you got to give a thumbs up to the leafs for having CANADIAN players! (Francis, Nolan, Nieuwendyk, Roberts, Belfour etc...)

bah!

Benhur
04-15-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Don
That end to that Montreal-Boston game was so pathetic that I found it funny (obviously I'm not a Habs fan)!

Feel bad for Montreal and Theodore (and Sourey) who got hosed because of Kovalev trying to dramatize a penalty.

Don't worry Don, Habs fan will have a chance to laugh at you (Leafs are getting old..)......on another note, even if the Habs had tied the series they wouldn't beat Boston with Theodore not giving his best hockey....the Habs have improved a lot, but the Bruins are a better team....its ok, the young Mtl players are getting better all the time, we''ll be there next year.

n_v
04-15-2004, 06:23 PM
Say what you will he has scored another one tonight for the Habs. Now if the Canadiens can get others to do their job (Theodore to STOP pucks), the Habs would be up 3-1 in games regardless of the Kovalev gaffe.

Benhur
04-15-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by n_v
Say what you will he has scored another one tonight for the Habs. Now if the Canadiens can get others to do their job (Theodore to STOP pucks), the Habs would be up 3-1 in games regardless of the Kovalev gaffe.

Absolutely true!.......Theo has already been playing at much higher level tonight....but he can still bring his game up a few notches.......if he does, anything can happen....

RemyMartin
04-15-2004, 07:03 PM
watching the game tonight, just can't see Boston is one of the better team in the NHL.

Ranger68
04-16-2004, 05:33 AM
No, I guess *you* missed the point, skipstagger. Lots of players attempt to embellish hits. It's unfortunately become de rigeur thanks to poor officiating.
Kovalev's was an extreme example. Not only did he embellish a minor infraction, he took his own player out doing so. This is what was so stupid about it.
I'm sure we could find a bunch of players on your team who do the same thing, skipstagger.
Unfortunately, your not man enough to tell us who that might be.
Not surprising.
Thanks for playing, though.
Oh, keep on bashing the Leafs, though. Makes you sound oh so intelligent and unbiased.
......
Jackass.

skipstagger
04-16-2004, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by Ranger68

Thanks for playing, though.
Oh, keep on bashing the Leafs, though. Makes you sound oh so intelligent and unbiased.
......


Jackass.

The hissy fit continues

Ranger68
04-16-2004, 07:06 AM
No, but the Ignoring starts.
buh-bye
:)

n_v
04-16-2004, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by skipstagger
You must be an angry little guy ranger 68 always calling people names and having a general hissy fit.

Well said skipstagger, couldn't agree with you more. Ranger has a self-pretentious attitude thinking he is al-mighty and better than anyone else on the board. If anyone has a differing opinion from him he hurls insults and name calling at and then puts you on ignore when you respond. Can't take the heat. What a total pussy!!!!!

rolo514
04-16-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Kev
Kovalev what a buffoon.

Even if hes hurt, he should still be playing the puck. Instead he holds his hand like the girl he is and runs into his own player (Sourey)...........what a smuck.:rolleyes: --- Kev

Guess he somewhat reedemed himelf last night with another goal-the winning one in fact..although I dont agrree with how he handled the slashbut he is the leading goal getter in the playoffs-oh and saku is leads in assists..
R

Ranger68
04-16-2004, 08:39 AM
It's hard to redeem yourself after costing the team in such an egregious fashion, in double-overtime, no less.
Blech.

rolo514
04-18-2004, 08:07 AM
ahemm-go habs-another goal albeit an empty net

Ranger68
04-18-2004, 04:17 PM
Maybe the series would be over if Kovalev hadn't acted like an imbecile?

If Montreal wins, fine. If they lose, I'd be happy to blame Kovasuck.