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SamanthaJones
04-14-2002, 09:20 AM
Question to the men- especially given these economic times- how many of you are happy with your present profession?
If money were not an issue would you change professions?
Do you feel trapped financially into a job you enjoy less than 50% of the time?
Does your S/O contribute to this entrapment ?
And to keep the thread related to TERB- is the stress from the above profession-
-an ispiration to use the services of an sp?
-or a detrement-leaves you not enough cash to afford a sp?
Sheik
04-14-2002, 09:35 AM
Am I happy with my present profession? I highly doubt anyone can say they are 100% happy all the time. I enjoy my profession and it allows me to meet many many people, some with considerable influence and some with none.
If money were not an issue, would I dump my job? I tried that and sold my business, ended up buying it back.
No I dont feel trapped..by work or by my s/o (okay, maybe trapped in a different way but not trapped in my career)
Yes, stress is a major reason why I seek the services of various ladies in this business.
For many years I loved my job and looked forward to the challenges and entertainment every day. Over the last 2 years it has become a chore, cost cutting, US influence etc.etc. I haven't changed my SP habits much but the reasons are different in a way, looking for TLC more than wham bam if you see what I mean.
Would I change jobs, too senior and too late for that!! Would I if I was 25 years younger, in a heartbeat!!
gassman
04-14-2002, 10:05 AM
I love my job also, but would I do it if money were no concern ?
Probably not. I imagine I would become somewhat philanthropic if I had unlimited resourses but I would not change professions.
As for stress and sp's...stress is all self imposed and I see sps for perosnal reasons
g-man
Animal
04-14-2002, 11:15 AM
I used to love my job untill I moved to this province.That is no big secret that I am not entirely happy up here.
I added a lot of stress and the enjoyment is gone as I have never been screamed at so much.I thought MOMMY was bad.She has nothing on the babies up here.
Yes that is part of the reason I go out.It is a complete get away from everything for a few hours.Yes I would change professions if I could.I tried to start my own business up here but there were so many road blocks I put it on hold till I can afford to do it myself.
Shades
04-14-2002, 11:36 AM
Have done several major career shifts in my lifetime...last one was about 10 years ago....do it cause I like change, like to grow and experience new things and meet different sets of people...have always liked what I do and my life with my significant other...but still like to explore new horizons, meet new people.
so yes, happy with my job and life today and being a part time "hobbyist"
just wish I had the time and money to participate more often specially with interesting folks that populate and initiate these discussions!
james t kirk
04-14-2002, 12:21 PM
Interesting thread.
I used to very much like my work. I changed locations (same field though) about 4 years ago.
The money has never been that great, but the work is interesting.
Initially, there were fair raises and bonuses.
In the last year, year and a half i have started to feel that my employer has taken to exploitation. They are taking advantage fo the current economic downturn to screw the employees over.
(Although, my industry has been largely unaffected by the downturn in the economy)
Last year was a record year for revenue and profit, however there were 0 raises given out, and no bonuses. They made excuses, pointed to the economy as a whole, and my favourite "the events of September 11" I loved that one, if anything, our business went up due to Sept. 11.
The decision to exploit the help comes from head office, no doubt about that.
I am no longer working scads of free overtime (salary, what a great concept), nor am i working weekends. If i do have to work overtime to achieve a dead line, i now take the corresponding time off immediatey. Otherwise, they (management) forget about it.
I have been used for too long. I am proud to say, i have not worked a single saturday or sunday since january. I don't care anymore.
The moral in the office is at all time lows, many people are looking for work elsewhere. I know that there will be 2 key people leaving shortly. Management at my place are blind to what is going on in the "back office" where everything gets done and the money is made.
Used to have head hunters call, and would listen, but was fairly happy. Now I am open to offers.
New strategy is to apply for an MBA program in the next 2 years, or open my own business.
I don't see being with my current employer this time next year.
They truly treat people like shit.
As far as the impact goes, the things i am noticing more and more are the constant increases in property taxes, combined with higher energy costs. My money doesn't go as far as it used to without a doubt.
The other huge problem is i invest my money and the stock market has pretty much taken a pounding over the last 2 years.
I don't know if anyone else dabbles in the worlds' largets casino, but since January, there is only frustration. Morning gains turn into afternoon losses starting generally at 2:00 pm, or 3:00 pm.
The Nasdaq is nothing but down down down.
The market only seems to read bad into everthing. Before, when Greenspan was on the last of his lowering cycles, the market tanks because to them it signals the economey is still slumping. Then when he doesn't lower rates anymore, the market sells off because maybe, "maybe" he will raise the rates in the future.
It's a freakin soap opera.
Indirectly, it all affects my ability to enjoy the "hobby" since i have always kept it a cash on hand affair, never using credit or money i couldn't afford to spend.
Do I love my job? Absolutely not!! I've never hated anything so much. However, after losing a wonderful job about 6 years ago due to company "reorganization" and not being able to get anything similar, I was forced to take this one or live on the streets. And at my age, there is little chance of getting anything else. I've tried and have had some interviews, but have not gotten a thing. The posters sure would be surprised that I participate occasionally in this hobby, considering how little money I make. You would probably wonder how in the world I even survive. Believe me, it isn't easy. But I have to be in the hobby, unless I want a life of celibacy. I have no choice here.
ice_dog
04-14-2002, 02:25 PM
It is true that lots of men have this problem. However, same thing is also true for women. Many professional women are experiencing nervous breakdown due to stress from work.
I wonder what is Samantha's intention to pose this question to men only. :confused:
Did you guys read the story in the Start today. Here is a female escort who chose this type of work because of her huge debt, not because she liked to have sex with different strangers.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1018735316404&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News&col=968793972154
maverick
04-14-2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by james t kirk
Interesting thread.
I used to very much like my work. I changed locations (same field though) about 4 years ago...
of all the responses i've read, jtk's situation rings dead on with mine. in fact, i don't think i could have said it better or more succinctly.
thanks captain...
but to me, change is good. i believe that situations that forces and motivates me to move forward is good.
i work in a place where the people at the top make so much money for what they little work they do. they'll never leave unless they're fired, it's like a gravy train. in fact, they've gotten the ""fat" (no offence to anyone) and lazy" syndrome. it may have made me a bit jealoous/envious, but it has also given me the drive to better myself and not be a hypocrite.
do i enjoy my job? i like my chosen profession, no doubt. but i've become negative about the company i work for due to office/company politics and work levels. they've cut the staff and doubled the workload to those who are left, without giving a decent pay increase.
as the captain said,
"I don't see being with my current employer this time next year."
the grass may not be greener on the other side, but i would like to have a change in scenery...
my $0.02...
mav
Toad-O-Line
04-14-2002, 09:13 PM
I personally enjoy my job - At times it is difficult, but when goals are achieved, the effort is worth it.
I tend to change jobs (within the same profession) every couple of years mainly due to seeking out new challenges. I have a close friend/colleague who is a head-hunter and she is always calling telling me about companies that need my style - No, she is not looking for a quick commission, we both worked at a company that required people to make tough decisions in short time frame - She understands my style and what I'm looking for (when my current situation is running smoothly I'll look for further challenges then).
Stress in the workplace is always there, no matter the profession (whether you are a CEO or a stock room clerk - No offense to either profession). I've gone into companies where I've had too advise management to cut a majority of staff - Is it stressful? To a certain extent yes, but I was hired to do a job and if I have to deliver bad news, then that's all part of the job isn't it? After all, why was I hired?
Money would not allow me to change my profession. After all, the best qualification for any profession is experience. And currently, experience is my trump card.
Do I use MP's (I've never seen an SP) as a stress release? Perhaps. I just enjoy going to them for the variety (amongst other reasons).
LoveThemGirls
04-14-2002, 09:30 PM
I'm currently working as a network administrator (for a year and a half now, went to computer school to train) after working for 18 years as a chef. I was tired of cooking and needed a new challenge so yes it is possible to change careers if you have the intelligence and desire.
Do I like it? Yes I do, but I also liked being a chef. There's advantages and disadvantages to both.
As a chef, I had a lot of control and outlet for my creativity, as well as free booze and free food and a steady stream of hot college age wait staff, hostesses, and bartenders. Unfortunately this came with long hours (12-14 hour days during busy seasons) and working every Friday and Saturday night.
I thought that moving to the business/computer world would be a good change. I like the slower pace and the learning of a new skill and especially working normal hours, but miss the people in the restaurant biz, who were always young, intelligent and fun. The majority of the people that work in my office are older and very very boring.
I guess that it's a fact that the perfect job and/or career choice is tough to find, but I'm making the most out of it. It helps to have something to fall back on.
Originally posted by jack
Over the last 2 years it has become a chore...
I agree with much of what others are saying. With the downturn in the economy, work is just that much harder and much of the "fun" has gone out of it. Like many "Terbites" (I expect), I own my own business. The pressures to be successful are greater than ever, and I feel a great responsibility to my 45 employees and their families.
Has this changed my hobbying? Well, in the sense that I wasn't a hobbyist at all two years ago, it might well have. You ladies provide a valuable service... as ears and minds as well as beautiful bodies. I have kidded with Kathleen about whether her services might be covered by my health benefit plan...
Would I change occupations? I would like to change the location of my business. I would love to relocate in the west close to the mountains as I am an avid skier. If someone made me the right offer, I would sell tomorrow!
S
iguana
04-15-2002, 03:09 PM
Happy - Yes, self employed
If money were not an issue would you change professions? Maybe..become a film director
Do you feel trapped financially into a job you enjoy less than 50% of the time? Not trapped...my salary is best it's ever been. Job is fairly interesting.
Does your S/O contribute to this entrapment ? No, she works.
-an ispiration to use the services of an sp? More cash and flexible time, and more stress all point me to SPs and MPAs.
luvdog
04-15-2002, 03:30 PM
To Samantha Jones:
Question to the men- especially given these economic times- how many of you are happy with your present profession?
I'm not happy at my current job, but it is helping me pay the bills for now.
If money were not an issue would you change professions?
Absolutely, in a heartbeat.
Do you feel trapped financially into a job you enjoy less than 50% of the time?
Yes
Does your S/O contribute to this entrapment ?
Yes
And to keep the thread related to TERB- is the stress from the above profession-
-an ispiration to use the services of an sp?
Only in that my employment status is so insecure and unstable that I'm actually saving more money seeing an escort than date a regular woman. The responsibilities of maintaining a commitment to a real relationship is much more stressful,and if I don't like how it is going I can end it with no guilt or frustration.
In a real relationship, you have to deal with the problems of other people,and they can give you stress.
Dating for real is no different than seeing an escort, except that escorts are more honest about what they want.
-or a detrement-leaves you not enough cash to afford a sp?
Sometimes.
Thanks for the thread Samantha,
Luvdog
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iguana
04-15-2002, 06:51 PM
Dating for real is no different than seeing an escort, except that escorts are more honest about what they want.
I dated a girl for 6 months once before sex...so that was a lot different!
james t kirk
04-15-2002, 09:24 PM
6 MONTHS.
Man, i hope that was one hell of a lay when she finally put out.
I couldn't do it. I mean, i would loose interest.
I think the longest i have ever gone just dating before we did the deed was a month, and by that time, i was so pissed off with her that i didn't want to date her any more.
just me i guess
Thunderballs
09-21-2002, 03:27 PM
I think that you should give Kirk a freebee Sam. He sounds way too stressed!
homonger
09-21-2002, 06:46 PM
Back to the thread...
Like many of you, I used to enjoy my job very much. I work for a large US based company, and felt my work was meaningful, important, and rewarding. I also liked the people I worked with and there were "perks" like business meals and travel.
The constant downsizing without commensurate adjustments to work output has taken its toll. What I found interesting and meaningful at one time, I now find blindingly repetitious and numbing. Plus I have reached a fairly high level and have found my career upward mobility has petered out. So now I despise my job, and would change jobs in a heartbeat if I found something which piqued my interest. If my company wanted volunteers for layoffs, I would volunteer. I wonder constantly why I still do it. I could quit tomorrow and have enough to live comfortably for 2 maybe even 3 years.
I love hobbying, however, and it is in hobbying that I find some solace. I think about hobbying when I am at work, and if I am in a boring meeting (are there any other kind?), I will pass the time by writing down the names of sp's I have seen or want to see. But the rub is, I need to continue to work so that I can continue to hobby. I could get by without working, but I couldn't afford to hobby anymore.
Thunderballs
09-21-2002, 08:14 PM
There is a saying that people rise to their highest level of incompetence in an organization. In other words, you get promoted for doing a good job until you no longer have the necessary skills to fully master or do your current position properly which precludes further promotions. This is the level at which people stagnate and feel frustrated, knowing that further self-actualization is probably out of reach.
Personally I feel that most guys are just too whiny about their jobs today. The honest truth is that I don't really know exactly what my job is. People come into my office, complain about their projects and I try to get it settled. I get paid a good living but in between hirings, firings and quelling rebellions is there really anything I can truly hang my hat on at the end of a particular day and say that I did that. No, not really. But I do have the capacity to realize that I have it pretty good. I worked my way through school as a plumber's helper which made me have a good appreciation for blue collar workers and for easy white collar jobs. At least in my current position I don't have to worry about hot lead dripping down into my boots anymore. My working motto is to just suck it up because you could probably do a lot worse in life. If you think that you have it bad, go trade with the guy digging ditches for a day and see if you still feel the same about things the next day.
Do guys see SP's as an escape from something lacking in their life be it professional or personal? Probably. I think it falls into the category of entertainment much like going to see a movie. Maybe if you don't have time to form lasting relationships, you may be seeking a human connection and it's just easier and quicker to pay for it. I don't think that you could put it down to anything in particular. The motivation probably differs for everyone. And the obvious cannot be overlooked.........that guys are just really horny by nature.
Garrett
09-21-2002, 08:49 PM
I agree with you Thunderballs... I have had so many sh*t jobs from 13 on up (more than one involved a shovel) that some days I am amazed they pay me to do what I do. I have a pretty unique job, maybe a handful like it in the world, and for all the stress and pressure... I would not do it any other way. I think if I had any regrets in the current workplace they would be:
o lack of loyalty all around. It has become pretty mercenary, and integrity has gone by the wayside.
o the decline of craftsmanship. In the quest for bigger/stronger/faster, true craftsmanship has been lost (or is at least in decline).
As for the SP angle... I will relate it to my quest for craftsmanship... is there anything more wondrous than a beautiful, well spoken woman?
MuffinMuncher
09-21-2002, 11:06 PM
I am one of the fortunate few who get paid very very well for a job I truly enjoy. Sure, I get frustrated and have days when I update my resume, but sanity returns and I realize how good I have it in spite of the occasional politics, babysitting, and other distractions.
The state of the economy has certainly curtailed job searches, but I would only entertain a change for an obscene amount of money anyway. My biggest fear is that my present situation will come to an unexpected and abrupt halt... a fear that comes a little closer to reality with each month that the economy stays near recession.
I participate in this hobby for reasons completely unrelated to either the ecomony or my job. I enjoy the variety and the companionship without the strings attached. Whether in a dating relationship or not, I still participate simply to know how green the grass might be on the other side of the fence. For me, it is strictly about fun and adventure and mutual pleasure.
Good thread.
novice_bdsm
09-21-2002, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Thunderballs
The motivation probably differs for everyone. And the obvious cannot be overlooked.........that guys are just really horny by nature.
I agree Thunderball. "guys are just really horny . . ."
For me an SP provides an aspect of sexual activity that I don't get with my significant other, since she prefers 'vanilla sex'.
Guess that makes me abnormal? Forget the philosophical discussion of normal. I have FUN! Isn't that why we are here?
Damondean
09-22-2002, 05:51 AM
Hate my job? What job? I'm currently doing an internship as a squeege kid.
Coach
09-22-2002, 02:59 PM
Like my job? Tough to say I just started it 6 months ago. It has many benefits and of course many negatives. I am paid fairly well for what I do, although I sacrificed significant pay in order to work closer to home ( outside the GTA). I returned to this industry after a 5 year absence because of the money & location.I spent the last 4 years travelling across Canada in a consulting position. I enjoyed seeing this beautiful country, but living in hotels 5 days a week, and spending so much time in an airplane gets boring. Business travel is fine for the short term, boring in the long term.
I do my job for the money. Had some rough times and I am gettingback on my feet, that's all.
Why the hobby? I am single, work way too much & go to grad school full time. When I want a woman to "play with", I can pick up the phone, have a hell of a time and be treated like a king for an hour or two.The SP's/MP's I visit make me feel great while I am with them. No more is expected, nor asked. No b.s. No worries about not calling the next day.No complaints by a lady that I work too much and don't spend enough time with her.
Would I like a s/o? Yes. However given the circumstances I have plaved myself in, that is very difficult. When it happens, my hobbying will end. Until that time, I will continue to indulge!
Originally posted by Damondean
Hate my job? What job? I'm currently doing an internship as a squeege kid.
are they hiring????????
i_am_good
09-22-2002, 09:43 PM
I love my job, 100%. If it were up to me, I'd retire from my current position.
I guess I'm very lucky. I get everything I need and more. I know I'm lucky because of the way I landed the position - totally by accident!
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