PM,
I know how you feel, and the odds are not in your favour, but if you want a date, you have to keep asking out women. Yes, all else being equal you will face a much higher rejection rate than a 6' tall guy and be given fewer breaks, but if you don't try, you'll never get a date.
BANG on!Originally Posted by Powershot
I get hit on all the time, it gets annoying and most of the time I don't even acknowledge men.I know what they all want and I ain't giving it up.
BUT there are very few instances where I've been super attracted to a man before he even spoke (acting cool and not gawking or burning holes in my ass with your eyes is attractive, if you seem to not even notice me in a room, I want to know why..and everytime I have wanted to know why a man wasn't staring at me like all the rest, I found out why, he knew how to play the game.he wanted it but didn't want me to know... damn that's hot.) , NO need to be driving a nice car, be tall,muscular, or even all that attractive- attraction goes way beyond the surface for me...and for most women.
What is the ultimate turn on->Humour, honesty, intelligence, being nice and confidence !!!
If a man can make me laugh, spark my interest with his intellect, is comfortable and confidant with himself --but not arrogant , is honest, even brutally is ok as long as youre honest with a sense of humour, I love good honestly.. and is friendly without being over baring or desperate ..nerdy friendly is not cool... be confidant!!!
also... my advise to men is to NEVER make a comment on a woman's looks the first time you meet her.
This may be just for me but look, I get men telling me i'm hot etc every.single.day. Give me something else!! Show me you're not a pig like the rest (even though I know you're thinking sex lol) act like you're not, like your're interested in ME, my eyes, my voice,my job, something. just not my looks. If a man says something pertaining to my looks the first time we meet; game over
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But after the 1st time we meet, don't ever stop saying how gorgeous I am HAHAHA chicks are whack huh?
I bet I know lots of guys who have these traits that you still wouldn't be interested in. You really still need to throw in physical chemistry, although that can be defined in some many different ways and isn't limited to certain body shapes and sizes.
"Yeah, the date went well, he was great actually, but I just wasn't feeling it." <- lack of chemistry.
Also, thanks for confirming what I already know. Girls want compliments on things they are not usually complimented on. Good looking girls want compliments on their personality. Girls with great personality but lesser looks want to be complimented on their looks.
+1 Huge turn off to act like a pig only interested in sex. Even bigger turn off if he has the "short man" syndromes. Napoleon pushy rude compensation or the 'poor me if I was only taller'. I will walk out in the middle of dinner if either one surfaces.
Oh yeah, of course CHEMISTRY!! Thats #1!! But honestly, ... I can tell whether there is chemistry within seconds of looking someone in the eyes. I have seen a man walking in the mall and one quick glance in his eyes and I want to know him. Nothing about looks, trust me... lol.. eyes are such a huge turn on, how a man looks at me is crucial
Sorry, had to make one more comment.
I think there is just way too much game playing going on here.
The effect she is describing is a guy who has choice with women so he doesn't need to gawk and stare at every woman in the room. He's not desperate. Didn't put her on a pedestal. Be that guy. But there is no need to "pretend" you're not interested, or whatever. Just approach and talk to women you like. A lot of guys show disinterest to such an extent that they get friend-zoned. Don't be that guy.
Did you notice Heidi also said that honesty was critical? When a guy compliments me and I get even a hint that it is BS, it is a flashing sign that says "NO NO NO NO".
yeah I guess you can take what I'm sayin and decipher it in a few different ways. I just mean don't be a gawker!! A quick glance with charming eyes and then back to what you're doing. Never look desperate or perverse. that's all I'm saying . And yes, of course start a conversation! I guess it all depends, if you're at a party, gym, bar or whatever and the girl isn't going anywhere you have the time to take it slow, a quick glance to let her see you and then she will wonder why you haven't approached her or kept staring.. so by then when you approach her she is already curious about you... give it a bit though .. If you pass a girl in the mall or on the streets, there is no time to kill so eye contact then make light conversation first then go for the number lol
But of course, this is based on MY experiences of being "picked up"...what has worked for me. Doesn't and won't work for everyone.I did not intend to create controversy
If I think you are pretty and I tell you so, how am I being dishonest?
But if you've heard it a million times, I will try to find something else about you to appreciate and compliment you on that. No dishonesty. Just being selective.
No controversy. Female opinions always appreciated.
Although I am now tempted to book you just so I can see if you are as hot as you claim to be. LOL. j/k
Ok good
lol I'm not claiming to be anything . I just said I get hit on all the time, which I do. I am TOLD that I am hot....I don't walk around saying I'm hot LOL by all means, come judge for yourself
heidi.vixen , you make some good points BUt I or anyones elses opinions based on our own experience, be it true or inaccurate. So i look to the statistics to give the bigger picture, trends be they slight or stark. Regardless of my opinion, the stats show clearly, overwhelming preference for tall, muscular, attractive. You & friends maybe not. Not saying you are lying, just saying the numbers show a bigger picture & definate overwhelming preference.
lol as i have said before my smartphone makes me look dumb wasnt reading what i was typing....so used to keyboard not touchscreen where i can type and not look at screen or keys
there are things you can do to increase your odds if you dont think it is worth it fine.
The only difference between Sex for money and Sex for free is that Sex for money is cheaper!!!!!
Seriously. Some guys think it's worth buying lottery tickets or playing blackjack. But talking to a girl.... NO WAY!
sad part is that people with extreme views tend to look for validation rather than consider other possibilities.
I never commented about you. Just said that I have had fake compliments.
As mentioned before I am not the personality type for long shots, such as playing the odds with lottery's & the such. I also acknowledge that this could be my downfall. I also have read the stuff, like work out, dress stylish, confidence etc. Sure, why not? But don't count on them doing too much.
I do not know how to say this without just repeating what was said before, but you do not seem to get it. Short men are fine and datable. Short men with a short man syndrome are not worth spending time with. In my experience, the majority of men who are short have the worse attitude on earth, and I am repelled by them. So I can pretty much guess why they are not marrying tall, or attractive, or bright women.
You are your own worse enemy. And you seem to be enjoying it.
So that was you the other day? Damn!
Fuck man..all the short guys on here grow some mother fucking balls and stop giving the rest of us a bad name. I’m short and an absolute rock star.
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